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Looting

What should be done about looters in hurricane-stricken areas? I'm tempted to say that they should be shot on sight, but maybe that's a little harsh. Another possibility is the imposition of martial law. See here for a story about looting.

Kevin Stroup (mail):
How do you empose martial law in a completely flooded area (New Orleans)? Do the troops swim after the bad guys? Do we send in the SEALs? Until you can even get into the area adequately, troops are useless. Once they are there, how do they get around? They cannot even get boats in yet in any decent numbers. Once the water level decreases, then the troops will be useful in N.O. Do not forget, you must resupply the troops and support them too. We cannot even rescue people routinely at this time. For now it is Mad Max/ Waterworld time in N.O. Troops can be used elswhere (Mississippi, Alabama, North Shore LA) to good effect, however. Martial law is not that bad. I lived under it in the Army for 3 years. It is strict, and draconian, but it is reasonable and just. Martial law is also definitely better than anarchy.
8.31.2005 6:26pm
Kevin Stroup (mail):
"Martial law is not to be confused with "military law," which governs the conduct of the military services and applies only to service men and women."

I am confused. The UCMJ or Uniform Code of Military Justice is the law code a soldier lives under. I was taught in the Army that the imposition of this on civilians is Martial Law. KBJ, could you please explain.
8.31.2005 6:36pm
Keith Burgess-Jackson (mail) (www):
I'm certainly no expert on military law, Kevin, but here's what it says in my Black's Law Dictionary, 5th ed. (1979):
Military law. A system of regulations for the government of armed forces. That branch of the laws which respects military discipline and the government of persons employed in the military service. Military law is distinct from martial law, in that it applies only to persons in the military or naval service of the government; whereas, martial law, when once established, applies alike to citizens and soldiers and supersedes civil law.
Does that help?
8.31.2005 7:06pm
Too Many Steves (mail):
I just watched a report on MSNBC on the topic of looting in New Orleans. The reporter had videotape of looting in the local Walmart. Not only were there lots of folks taking essential items such as televisions, dvds, and toys, but some of the local police were participating - and not in a law enforcement capacity.
8.31.2005 8:11pm
Mindy (mail):
The clip I just watched on the news showed how an photo of black people was tagged as looting from a store when some people had taken food, and a picture of white folks who "found" food and supplies in a store.

I think there is an argument about what is essential to take in this sort of emergency.

Some people think food and water, some think tennis shoes, some think guns for protection, some think...a portable radio or board game to alleviate boredom.

I'm gonna have to start looting soon myself if gas prices don't go back down!!
9.1.2005 9:44pm
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